New -17" saddle,  seats like a 16".  This western Show saddle made here in Houston is a custom made saddle that comes with gold and silver Texas conchos. Silver sturrips, and is 100% hand tooled premium leather. The seat is a black swede with a gel foam insert. You have never felt any saddle seat more comfortable as this one. It comes with a matching breast strap and head stall with reins. This saddle retails for over $1200.00 I bought it for my daughters return to the show ring, but she is not interested. My loss your gain.